Mark Blevis

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I have a blog but i haven't really make any money on it as yet! But i plan to just need to put in a bit more work get it up the ranking and compete with the big boys! BRING IT ON!

You are all welcome for dinner, though Mark may be too tall.....

I find it funny nitpicking on this side of the argument, as Broca's is of course a hobby, and we have no plan to make money. Indeed, in the T6 profile on CPB last year, I said I wished that corporate types would get out of the game.

OK, so here are a couple of issues. If one has a hobby cast (as I do) and one that is intended to make money (I could certainly say that my lecturecasts are at least partly intended to promote Algoma U, as that is one of the reasons I do it, and that would increase our number of students) am I in a potential conflict? I link to my lectures on the Broca site. I do mention them now and then as well.

On the hobby thing. OK, instead of my cooking, let us go with the example of my model plane making. OK, say I enter one of my planes in a model making competition and win. Is that not getting paid?

I know I nitpick. For that is my thing that I do...

Dave

I wasn't planning on declaring my dinner parties Powered By Passion because
I just can't imagine getting rid of my dinner party tip jar!

Maybe it's time I invite Dave & Isabelle over for supper..

That is hilarious, imagine that, someone bringing cash. "Hey, the liquor store was closed, so here's 30 bucks".

I like your point, Dave. I guess that's why we suggest that gifts are okay. A lot of people, particularly show guests, like to acknowledge your support by giving you free tickets to their performance, autographed CDs and books, t-shirts, etc... We don't see those as being issues for PbP.

In your example, your dinner guests are contributing to the evening by bringing a gift (say a bottle of wine) as a gesture. Rarely, if ever, would they bring cash and I'm sure you would feel awkward if they did.

The Other Guy

Hi Andrea and the other guy,

Hmm, I see the point, yeah I don't ask for tips say oh when I make model planes (which I don't do any more but that is beside the point). Then again, I like to cook, we have people over for dinner a lot etc. If someone asks 'what do you want me to bring' I usually say 'you'. Then again, they are free to bring stuff, and most do.

Like I said, i get the poin t though. Food for thought if you will.

DB (and NOT Isabelle, as she is in another room....)

Hey guys!

Our thinking is to keep it simple.

There are a million different cases of what can be considered "reasonable expenses" and what a "reasonable charge" is for those expenses. Then you have to consider world currencies (since we want this to be an open community). I mean, for Broca's Area, expenses could be CDN$10/month, then for Check This Out! it could be US$20/month, for Electric Sky it could be CDN$5/month and a new semi-pro audio card and two shotgun mics and for Just One More Book it could be several visits to bookstores and online stores each week at $100 a pop. How do you define what is a reasonable limit and avoid having to "jury" every situation? Realistically, nobody asks for tips from others to fuel their book reading hobby, or donations to buy a new spinnaker for their personal sailboat.

Our thoughts on this are to keep it simple and avoiding having to write several complicated paragraphs to explain. If we say no revenue stream, it's easy for someone to figure out on their own whether or not they qualify. It's easy to explain that in a sentence. Much like Creative Commons has boiled things down to simple terms.

Again, this depends largely on whether this model can be adopted and sustained.

It seems that if we adopt these kinds of revenue streams, we would have to create a logo that indicates Powered by Passion and Google and a tip jar. :)

The community will have to make the final decisions. We are simply opening the discussion and leading the charge to achieve a community framework.

Your judges ;-)
Mark AND ANDREA

You are not allowed actually to say how much you make on google ads. But it is much closer to pennies for most of us..

I had another case for Judge Mark: what about the Cafe Press store I have on my site? I don't have a markup, so Cafe Press makes money on it, but not me. The coffee mugs, button, and t-shirts are just for fun, and to help build community. Actually the only items that have sold are ones I bought and gave away.

Or: what if I decided to put a link to my Amazon wishlist?

Mark, what about oh say having a paypal donate button or the odd google ad in hopes of defraying some of the costs of production. We have that at brocasarea.ca, but no plans to ''make money'. Indeed, so far we could pay for one mic, or really maybe half of one, with what we have had donated to us.

Dave